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A mysterious Ansaldo

Francisco Marques de Aguiar sent us these pictures of his beautiful 1927 Ansaldo. He is the proud owner of this 4F (?) but unfortunately has little to no information about the car, which is the reason why he contacted us.

Are there any connoisseurs of the Ansaldo brand around who can tell us about the make in general? And perhaps can tell Francisco about this type 4F in particular or knows where he can get more data about the car?

Your help would be highly appreciated.

 

Originally published: Monday March 23rd, 2020

 

Publié:
lundi mai 2nd, 2022
Len Schutt
12 Mai 2022, 05:48
I have recently finished a restoration of a 1923 4C Ansaldo with a raceabout body. I now have to learn how to handle two wheel brakes and very direct steering.
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Len Schutt
01 Mai 2022, 06:47
I have virtually finished the restoration of my 1923 4C Ansaldo which I have owned for about 60 years. I have brought it back as a raceabout and have tried to keep everything as period as possible. I know of about 6 other Ansaldos in Australia and am pleased to have owned, and kept, a very rare marque vehicle.
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bill harper
14 Novembre 2020, 16:51
I have an ansaldo instruction book complete with it's folded maps in English stamped Watkins and Doncaster ,often wondered if it was of any value.
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Ian Kenny
28 Mars 2020, 00:48
I am not familiar with a model 4F Ansaldo but I have an Ansaldo 4C which has been in my family since 1930. It has a 1847cc engine, 4 cylinders, ohv, aluminium pistons, cross flow head and pressurised oil system. It is a 'colonial ' model with wooden wheels, rear wheel brakes , 3 speed gearbox, and water pump.
The body is 4 door torpedo made in Italy, Marelli ignition and although the wooden wheels are serviceable I have fitted open face hub wheels similar to Alvis 12/50 in the interests of safety.
I believe there are about 6 Ansaldos in Australia , they are a sister car to Diatto and Ceirano and my Ansaldo is nicely made with numbering on most components, even door latches!
Wolf Barnato (who owned Bentley Motors), and Nuvolari both raced Ansaldos early in their careers.
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Giuse Weber
25 Mars 2020, 22:51
and here an italian ansaldo 10 advertisement
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Giuse Weber
25 Mars 2020, 22:48
my 1925 6B
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Giuse Weber
25 Mars 2020, 22:30
This looks like an Ansaldo 10.
check the front spring(s).
if there is one transverse leaf spring then it is certainly a model 10. engine size about 1500 ccm.
I restored a 1923 4CS (1981 ccm) and will also restore a 1925 6B (2200 ccm), which still has a 3 speed gear box.
have fun with this lovely spider. use very basic engine oil that produces oil mist, otherwise the gears that drive the cross shaft for the magneto and water pump may fail prematurely.
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John Bates
23 Mars 2020, 13:17
According to Georgano, Ansaldo of Turin were in business from 1919 to 1936. Originally they used 4 cylinder ohc engines, 3 speed gearboxes and wooden wheels. Engines increased in size (and the number of cylinders) from the original 1847 cc to a range of sizes up to 3.5 litres. Four-wheel brakes appeared in 1923.
The 1927 sixes had 2.2 litre engines and 4 speed gearboxes and coil ignition.
In 1932 the CEVA took over the unsold stock of 400 chassis. but cars could be bought up to 1936.
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Will
23 Mars 2020, 10:55
Looks very similar to Zagato body on early Alfa 1500N.
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JeffPerkins
23 Mars 2020, 02:08
I meant to use this picture with my earlier post
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Jeff Perkins
23 Mars 2020, 02:04
A very handsome car...looks a lot like a 1929 Ford Cabriolet from the side.
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