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Mystère du moteur Riley?

Greg Dobson écrit : "Je me demandais si certains de vos lecteurs pourraient m'aider à identifier ou à éclairer l'histoire de ce moteur inhabituel... Lors d'une visite à Beaulieu auto-jumble avec une liste de pièces à acheter pour mon puzzle d'un Riley 9 spécial, j'ai discuté avec des hommes du club Riley qui m'ont parlé de ce moteur inhabituel. Je crois qu'il s'agissait au départ d'un moteur 9 standard, mais à un moment donné de son histoire, il a été fortement modifié pour incorporer deux bobines et deux distributeurs, entre autres choses. Les modifications ont été effectuées à un niveau élevé. J'ai montré à certains des magiciens du club écossais des propriétaires de Riley qui ont fait quelques suggestions, mais rien de concret. Tout ce que je sais de son histoire, c'est qu'elle est passée entre les mains du célèbre collectionneur Barry Peerless qui l'a apparemment sauvée d'une casse. Je me suis abstenu de le démonter jusqu'à ce que j'en sache plus sur ce moteur spécial. Des idées?"

 

Publié initialement le 12 octobre 2015

 

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mercredi mai 10th, 2023
julian messent - Historic Competition Services, Belgium
10 Mai 2023, 09:26
Many years ago in the very early 90s I was working with Barrie Gillies in Reading, Barry as most Riley people will know had probably the World's largest collection of Riley parts and a massive knowledge of Rileys.
While organizing the second hand parts stores that Barry had I came across a very similar engine but a 6, and there were two of them. Partly dismantled and talking to Barry about these he informed me that he had bought them from the late John Treen, A profound and very famous Riley special builder, Apparently these two engines were built by him as a development project and the idea was once tested as seperate 6 cylinder engines, was to bolt them both together on the sump flange and make some form of flat 12. (I think this would have been rather cumbersome but at that stage the 12 was only an idea) Barry had picked up all of John's spares when he closed his business.
I think by the looks and similarity of this 12/4 that it is the work of John Treen, unfortunately I have no pics of the 6 cyl engines but I have a very good technical memory and the similarities are large.
Fun project, good luck.
Julian
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Steve Hughes
12 Octobre 2015, 16:59
too much original left in the job for anything to do with Bugatti owners these days.
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Inconnu
12 Octobre 2015, 14:04
I think this engine has been converted to overhead camshaft from the original high cam with push rods, although it seems a lot of unnecessary work just to achieve this. I wonder perhaps if rotary valves were being tried. I hope you give us some photos when dismantled.
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Inconnu
12 Octobre 2015, 12:24
It does have 2 distributors but they each have only 2 plug wires. Must have been motorcycle units.
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Inconnu
12 Octobre 2015, 08:56
I remember Barry Peerless showing me that engine. As we understood it, the Riley Nine valvegear was quite capable of running to any speed required of it, hence we agreed was a rather pointless exercise.
As the photos show, it is a twin overhead camshaft conversion and although it does have two distributors, the standard Riley Nine cylinder head that's beneath it all only has one plug per cylinder.
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Inconnu
12 Octobre 2015, 08:20
wonderful piece of kit.Just my sort of thing.I bet a Bugatti owner made this.
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