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New rules for advertising stopped! (April 1: thank you for your support!)
UPDATE: APRIL FOOLs . Thank you all for your warm response. It is great that so many out there feel connected with what we're doing. In the same way we feel connected to you out there working in thousands of work shops to preserve automotive history. We are a real community together and Yes! we must confess that this time it was a first of April set-up in a long tradition of PWC April Fool's editions. This does not take away the fact that there are many dangers for our hobby. Let's stand together and face the issues and open up new opportunities. Glad to know you are all awake !
Amsterdam based PreWarCar and PostWarClassic are facing difficult times. As per today Dutch government has put into effect a new set of rules for advertising media. One of these rules is that we may no longer allow wrecks in adverts (either due to accident or long time of non-use). We received notice to close down the pre-war section 'Barnfind classic cars for sale' and the post-war section 'Project classic cars for sale' within 5 business days. The reasoning behind this ridiculous rule - primarily set up for much more modern vehicles - is safety and environment: wrecks should be scrapped so that especially these can no longer be restored and thus prevent future safety and pollution. Of course we do not agree with this bizarre rule that has been forced upon us without any form of consultation. This will seriously affect the existence, even survival, of our two websites, not to mention the hobby in general. Thus we need your help! Let us know you don't agree and send us your protest! We will collect them and offer them to the government.
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dimanche mars 31st, 2013
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Inconnu
05 Avril 2013, 22:35
This is the most ill considered political decision I ever saw.
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Inconnu
05 Avril 2013, 22:30
This is the most hair-brained political decision I ever saw !
Did they consider:
-how many people get pleasure in just admiring our Vintage/veteran cars(not just ownwers.
- how many people are employed in the restoration business,and needless to say the revenue.
- how many old cars actually cause accidents?
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Did they consider:
-how many people get pleasure in just admiring our Vintage/veteran cars(not just ownwers.
- how many people are employed in the restoration business,and needless to say the revenue.
- how many old cars actually cause accidents?
Inconnu
02 Avril 2013, 14:45
I realise that it is beginning of April but surely no Parliament would be so filled with lunatics that they could pass such an ill conceived law.
Unbelievable,
Editor: Like you say, no reason to believe our April 1 tackle ... ;-)
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Unbelievable,
Editor: Like you say, no reason to believe our April 1 tackle ... ;-)
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 23:12
Parliament, please inform your self before you take decisions. This is ridiculous!
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 21:29
Clearly this rule needs to be changed. Cars that are historic and rare should be exempt.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 21:13
We really appreciate the fantastic website; THANKS!
What politicians fail to understand is that the restoration of old/older cars is a remarkable form of recycling. The amount of energy required to make a car is 70% of the total energy consumed during the cars life time. By restoring vehicles there is potentially a real benefit to the planet and its inhabitants?
Let's hope they will make exceptions?
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What politicians fail to understand is that the restoration of old/older cars is a remarkable form of recycling. The amount of energy required to make a car is 70% of the total energy consumed during the cars life time. By restoring vehicles there is potentially a real benefit to the planet and its inhabitants?
Let's hope they will make exceptions?
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 20:09
Very sad news. Long time I did not hear so stupid things.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 18:15
Please!!please!!Joris use your immense influence and get this stopped,otherwise it will spread to England and I will never be able to sell any of my cars and then what will becme of me oh woe is me.
Graham.
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Graham.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 15:45
This sounds like one of Joris's April fool jokes!
Rod Martin
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Rod Martin
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 15:38
1: let's hope it's a joke
2: if not, vote those idiots out of office
3: Don't let them ride in a "classic" car as a politician in the next parade, let em walk.
4: remind the fools of the tax base they are throwing away.
Do laps in a noisy PWC around the house or offices they live?work in if all eles fails, just to annoy their small underdeveloped brains.....
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2: if not, vote those idiots out of office
3: Don't let them ride in a "classic" car as a politician in the next parade, let em walk.
4: remind the fools of the tax base they are throwing away.
Do laps in a noisy PWC around the house or offices they live?work in if all eles fails, just to annoy their small underdeveloped brains.....
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 15:17
Joris " je ben nu wel blij zeker dat je je Fordje verkocht heb
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 14:38
This rule ignores historical objects and the people who wrote the law need very quickly to install an exception for cars that need to be saved, like all the cars that appear on Prewarcar.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 13:06
Please, Dutch people have been very sensible, inteligent always, what ever has happened to them?
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 12:21
I suggest you petition your Member of Parliament.
The 'Historic' type of so-called wreck should be entirely exempt from this kind of Motor Trader- Lets-Sell-More -New -Cars lobbying.
You WILL win.
Pick a cut-off date, say pre 1960, and do not advertise anything so-called wreck after that date.
Get an on-line petition going, cause a stink, lots of faceless bureaucrats are yellow-bellied by nature.bveh4
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The 'Historic' type of so-called wreck should be entirely exempt from this kind of Motor Trader- Lets-Sell-More -New -Cars lobbying.
You WILL win.
Pick a cut-off date, say pre 1960, and do not advertise anything so-called wreck after that date.
Get an on-line petition going, cause a stink, lots of faceless bureaucrats are yellow-bellied by nature.bveh4
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 11:51
Must be April the 1st or some one is a mad as a March Hare. If not then shift the web site domain registration offshore. The systems a great leveler that way and there not a thing they can do about it.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 11:28
Maybe they don't distinguish between oldtimers and useless modern cars ready to be destroyed. However Ithink this is 1st April joke, isn't it?
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 11:10
Hang in there Joris - these little things are sent to try us!
Your website provides a wonderful service and I am sure there will be a solution determined through common sense, it is just that the messge seems to take longer to get through nowdays!
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Your website provides a wonderful service and I am sure there will be a solution determined through common sense, it is just that the messge seems to take longer to get through nowdays!
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 10:51
Relocate as the Multinationals or take-them on in the courts. No doubt you will receive backing from the vintage car fraternity
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 10:04
Good 1 april joke, if not it's the silliest thing ever heard
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:57
1. Relocate as the multi-nationals
2. Continue and let them take you to court. Will be major backing from the Vintage car fraternity.
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2. Continue and let them take you to court. Will be major backing from the Vintage car fraternity.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:50
1 aprilgrap
Een 1 aprilgrap (ook wel aprilgrap of aprilvis genoemd) is een traditie waarbij mensen elkaar op 1 april voor de gek proberen te houden.
In Frankrijk spreekt men van poisson d'avril. In Engelstalige landen wordt de dag April Fool's Day genoemd, en de Russen hebben het over День Дурака (Den Doeraka, dag van de dommerik). In sommige Vlaamse streken spreekt men over verzenderke(n)sdag, de dag waarop je iedereen tracht ergens heen te zenden om ze beet te nemen.
Franstalige ansichtkaarten in het kader van poisson d'avril (aprilvis), de Franse versie van 1 april.
'Aprilvis': de goudvis wordt vaak gezien als mascotte van 1 april-grappen.
Het polygoonjournaal trapte in 1958 in een Zuid-Limburgse 1 aprilgrap
Sommige bronnen zeggen dat de bijzondere betekenis van 1 april ontstaan is bij de Franse wijziging naar de gregoriaanse kalender, zoals opgedragen door Paus Gregorius XIII in 1582. Voor die tijd werd Nieuwjaar gevierd van 25 maart tot 1 april. Met de verandering van het kalendersysteem werd Nieuwjaar verplaatst naar 1 januari. Mensen die dit vergaten of die het nieuwe kalendersysteem weigerden te aanvaarden, kregen uitnodigingen voor niet-gehouden feestjes, grappige presentjes enzovoort.
Dat dit bovenstaande verhaal klopt, is onwaarschijnlijk, de 1 aprilgrap wordt voor het eerst vermeld in een Franse bron in 1508, dus voor die tijd. De eerste vermelding in een Nederlandstalige bron dateert uit ca. 1560 te Brugge, een gedicht van de rederijker Eduard de Dene. Het is een parodie op ‘1 april’ waarin een knecht het plan van zijn heer om hem te verzenden doorziet. De geschiedenis gaat dus tenminste terug tot het begin van de zestiende eeuw. De wijde verspreiding van het verschijnsel wijst echter op een hogere ouderdom.
1 april is volgens een andere theorie ontstaan uit een vroeger middeleeuws festival: Het Feest van de Zotten. La fête des fous was vooral in Frankrijk van de 5e tot de 16e eeuw erg populair. Het werd gevierd omstreeks 1 januari door het kiezen van een valse paus of bisschop en ging gepaard met allerlei rituelen en festiviteiten waarbij de geestelijkheid werd geparodieerd. Aan de basis hiervan lagen dan weer naar alle waarschijnlijkheid vroegere heidense saturnalia.
Er zijn verklaringen gezocht in het wisselvallige aprilweer en parallellen gezien in de Germaanse mythologie (Loki) of in de Bijbelse geschiedenis. In verschillende landen zijn ook wel nationale gebeurtenissen aangevoerd als begin van de traditie. Deze verklaringen, die waarschijnlijk ooit zelf als aprilgrap zijn verzonnen, leiden soms tot op de dag van vandaag een hardnekkig leven. Zo denkt men in Nederland nog vaak dat de grappenmakerij begonnen is met de inname van Den Briel door de watergeuzen op 1 april 1572, zoals blijkt uit een bekend gezegde: Op 1 april verloor Alva zijn bril. Het feit dat ook buiten Nederland 1 aprilgrappen worden gemaakt, wordt daarbij over het hoofd gezien.
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Een 1 aprilgrap (ook wel aprilgrap of aprilvis genoemd) is een traditie waarbij mensen elkaar op 1 april voor de gek proberen te houden.
In Frankrijk spreekt men van poisson d'avril. In Engelstalige landen wordt de dag April Fool's Day genoemd, en de Russen hebben het over День Дурака (Den Doeraka, dag van de dommerik). In sommige Vlaamse streken spreekt men over verzenderke(n)sdag, de dag waarop je iedereen tracht ergens heen te zenden om ze beet te nemen.
Franstalige ansichtkaarten in het kader van poisson d'avril (aprilvis), de Franse versie van 1 april.
'Aprilvis': de goudvis wordt vaak gezien als mascotte van 1 april-grappen.
Het polygoonjournaal trapte in 1958 in een Zuid-Limburgse 1 aprilgrap
Sommige bronnen zeggen dat de bijzondere betekenis van 1 april ontstaan is bij de Franse wijziging naar de gregoriaanse kalender, zoals opgedragen door Paus Gregorius XIII in 1582. Voor die tijd werd Nieuwjaar gevierd van 25 maart tot 1 april. Met de verandering van het kalendersysteem werd Nieuwjaar verplaatst naar 1 januari. Mensen die dit vergaten of die het nieuwe kalendersysteem weigerden te aanvaarden, kregen uitnodigingen voor niet-gehouden feestjes, grappige presentjes enzovoort.
Dat dit bovenstaande verhaal klopt, is onwaarschijnlijk, de 1 aprilgrap wordt voor het eerst vermeld in een Franse bron in 1508, dus voor die tijd. De eerste vermelding in een Nederlandstalige bron dateert uit ca. 1560 te Brugge, een gedicht van de rederijker Eduard de Dene. Het is een parodie op ‘1 april’ waarin een knecht het plan van zijn heer om hem te verzenden doorziet. De geschiedenis gaat dus tenminste terug tot het begin van de zestiende eeuw. De wijde verspreiding van het verschijnsel wijst echter op een hogere ouderdom.
1 april is volgens een andere theorie ontstaan uit een vroeger middeleeuws festival: Het Feest van de Zotten. La fête des fous was vooral in Frankrijk van de 5e tot de 16e eeuw erg populair. Het werd gevierd omstreeks 1 januari door het kiezen van een valse paus of bisschop en ging gepaard met allerlei rituelen en festiviteiten waarbij de geestelijkheid werd geparodieerd. Aan de basis hiervan lagen dan weer naar alle waarschijnlijkheid vroegere heidense saturnalia.
Er zijn verklaringen gezocht in het wisselvallige aprilweer en parallellen gezien in de Germaanse mythologie (Loki) of in de Bijbelse geschiedenis. In verschillende landen zijn ook wel nationale gebeurtenissen aangevoerd als begin van de traditie. Deze verklaringen, die waarschijnlijk ooit zelf als aprilgrap zijn verzonnen, leiden soms tot op de dag van vandaag een hardnekkig leven. Zo denkt men in Nederland nog vaak dat de grappenmakerij begonnen is met de inname van Den Briel door de watergeuzen op 1 april 1572, zoals blijkt uit een bekend gezegde: Op 1 april verloor Alva zijn bril. Het feit dat ook buiten Nederland 1 aprilgrappen worden gemaakt, wordt daarbij over het hoofd gezien.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:47
I stuck in my thumb and pulled out a plum! April 1st per chance.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:44
Move the servers off shore & register the company somewhere suitable like Lichenstein or Grand Cayman, prior to sticking two fingers up at the Dutch Government & politely suggesting they Foxtrot Oscar!!!
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:37
I suggest to sollicit support from european and us automobile associations to get this rule amended for classic/vintage vehicles
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:33
I suggest to sollicit the support of european and us automobile clubs and associations to get this rule amended for oldtimers and vintage vehicles.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:32
This is irrational legislation in the context of the collector car hobby, which ought to be exempted.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:26
As an enthousiast of classic motorcycles and cars I protest against these new rules. It just seems bizarre and an overreach of bureaucracy. Whatever happened to common sense?
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:22
I strongly hope that is only April 1st joke. But be careful, some agile politician can take is as great idea for next round of screw tightening......
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:20
I've just realised it's April 1st! Excellent. I was completely taken in.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:19
it does seem the time is right for this to appear
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:18
Hang on a second now that I'm awake its 1st April today
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:17
Utterly ridiculous! Clearly whoever has formulated this policy hasn't considered the employment the restoration of these old cars provides and the wealth generated from it. What next, burning antique furniture because it needs repair and re-polishing ?
Don't accept this nonsense lying down!
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Don't accept this nonsense lying down!
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:17
nice april-joke!!!
best whishes for easter-monday
Nino
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best whishes for easter-monday
Nino
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:15
Must be an April fools joke, right? Can't believe a law so ridiculous can be put in place anywhere in the world!
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:07
Everyone seems to be taking this very seriously but as it only appeared without any prior warning on Monday 1st April before mid day Could it be an APRIL FOOL!!!
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:04
I cannot help thinking that today's date is perhaps of some relevance... ;-)
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 09:01
Categorize and advertise them as 'automotive art' should do the trick!
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 08:56
Isn't it today April the first?
Or in Dutch ,, 1 Aptil ! ,,
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Or in Dutch ,, 1 Aptil ! ,,
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 08:54
Surely it is more environmentally friendly to repair/ restore what is already made?
These cars are part of out heritage and in these times of untrusted banks provide an excellent alternative inversment opportunity. One which provide employment and joy to millions across the world.
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These cars are part of out heritage and in these times of untrusted banks provide an excellent alternative inversment opportunity. One which provide employment and joy to millions across the world.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 08:38
I send this e-mail in protest against the Dutch Governments decision to close down the Prewar websites 'Barn find' and 'Project' sections of its fantastic website.
These sections help and aid enthusiasts to both find cars to restore and cars that might be used for parts to help preserve another car. The Prewar website is an essential tool in protecting our motoring heritage for future generations.
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These sections help and aid enthusiasts to both find cars to restore and cars that might be used for parts to help preserve another car. The Prewar website is an essential tool in protecting our motoring heritage for future generations.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 08:36
I am against these new dutch rules and therefore I support you in your battle against it in this way.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 08:35
Idiotic idea of ​​officials from the European Union
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 08:26
Down with all governments planning such evil legislation. It is good to know PWC bothers!
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 08:03
Let's see if this rule still exists tomorrow....
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:59
Once again, an absurd situation - brought about by those who have no concept or understanding of what our movement is about. Everyone must make their feelings known about this as it is wholly unacceptable.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:57
Looks like the Easter Bunny couldn't make it, but the April Fools did! Well Done Lads!
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:55
Would it not be a good idea to wreck all those stupid politicians. They had opertuneties enoug to inovate automobile industrie, just did not do it.
This ruel wil destoy stil existing skils.
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This ruel wil destoy stil existing skils.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:54
I hope this blatant barn ban won't be advertised online tomorrow too. Vintagent barnowners do not need that Fool EUSSR President Van Rompuy confiscating Bugattis after he's finished stealing Cyprus Banksters' cash
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:48
I'm sure this could be successfully challenged as a restrictive practice for trade. From what you describe it appears to be so much nonsense (like redefining the definition of an historic vehicle - why are we even having the conversation?) that I can't even begin to understand who is going to benefit. I can see who's going to lose - that's particularly obvious - so it can be described only as a pernicious ruling and its implementation should be challenged immediately.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:47
Dutch government people are experts in making the greatest mistakes with a big smile on their face.. they will never learn.
This is ridiculous!
who voted for these people?
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This is ridiculous!
who voted for these people?
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:47
Hi all--------The only wrecks that should be banned are we Old Fart antique car owners!!! The metal stuff does not pollute at all compared with we O/F's ESPECIALLY those like me who were born on APRIL FOOL'S DAY!!! Jak.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:43
No need to publish this post but happy April 1st!
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:40
April 1 always is a nice day to give it a try, the Bugatti book one was the best till Today, I like this one as well I must say.
The success is obvious, congratulations.
No hard feelings should you decide not to post this one.
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The success is obvious, congratulations.
No hard feelings should you decide not to post this one.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:33
There is no limit to human stupidity.
Are they going to forbid the adverts for other antiques in need of restoration as well?
Apparently the incompetent busybodies in government have nothing else to do for justifying their jobs! They are should be better inspired to consider all the consequences of their ill conceived legislation before passing it.
Frans
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Are they going to forbid the adverts for other antiques in need of restoration as well?
Apparently the incompetent busybodies in government have nothing else to do for justifying their jobs! They are should be better inspired to consider all the consequences of their ill conceived legislation before passing it.
Frans
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:33
Another example of EEC interference, have they nothing else to do, perhaps they should send the instigator of this stupid act down to the toilets to measure the lengths of paper we use.
This is one of my favourite sites & would dearly miss my morning fix.
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This is one of my favourite sites & would dearly miss my morning fix.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:28
I send this e-mail in protest against the Dutch Governments decision to close down the Prewar websites 'Barn find' and 'Project' sections of its fantastic website.
These sections help and aid enthusiasts to both find cars to restore and cars that might be used for parts to help preserve another car. The Prewar website is an essential tool in protecting our motoring heritage for future generations.
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These sections help and aid enthusiasts to both find cars to restore and cars that might be used for parts to help preserve another car. The Prewar website is an essential tool in protecting our motoring heritage for future generations.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 07:14
More bullshit and I thought that it was only in the UK that the Department of Crap existed to stop things running smoothly,
If it isnt broken dont fix it but not here- if all is ok lets make it a problem and see how much we can squeese out of the tax payer either for not doing or in fines for forgetting to do what didnt need doing in the first place.Life just seems to be an uphill battle and even hobbies are no longer safe.
Mind you it helps with unemployment -more useless jobs are created covered by fines impossed all at cost of the taxpayer.
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If it isnt broken dont fix it but not here- if all is ok lets make it a problem and see how much we can squeese out of the tax payer either for not doing or in fines for forgetting to do what didnt need doing in the first place.Life just seems to be an uphill battle and even hobbies are no longer safe.
Mind you it helps with unemployment -more useless jobs are created covered by fines impossed all at cost of the taxpayer.
Robin
01 Avril 2013, 07:11
I was into the second paragraph of an eloquent passionate letter of support for your fight against this outrageous ban on the most thrilling aspect of our hobby when the radio told me the date.
I was fooled hook, line and sinker! But here's the picture I prepared for you to help our cause.
As ever,
Robin.
[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8609347440_1bfcca89c0_z.jpg[/img]
[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8453507771_99d87befc6_o.jpg[/img]
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I was fooled hook, line and sinker! But here's the picture I prepared for you to help our cause.
As ever,
Robin.
[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8609347440_1bfcca89c0_z.jpg[/img]
[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8453507771_99d87befc6_o.jpg[/img]
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 06:56
No I dont want this to happen bloody buracrates lets find out what they like and try to ban it. See how they like it.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 06:47
I own not one but two extremely rare Motorcars namely an Autovia saloon and Riley Silver streak Adelphi, both these cars would be classed as barnfinds even with the Adelphi being mostly restored.I must assume that neither of my cars will be commercially marketable in your country by what you print.The question has to be how long before such a ridiculous ruling spreads across Europe as a whole curtailing the operations of many auction houses?.Will it also apply to the private seller and will it stop the salvageable saloons from being turned into specials in the name of sport?
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 06:44
Regarding rules about advertising wrecked vehicles or dormant vehicles for sale:I find it ironic that a government that would legislate and allow drug use and the sex trade would find the old car hobby dangerous to people and the environment.This defies all logic.I am vehemently opposed to this sort of regulation and would ask that you kindly reconsider your position.
Respectfully
Robert Apalsch
Fairbanks,Alaska
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Respectfully
Robert Apalsch
Fairbanks,Alaska
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 06:43
this is ridiculous, those they make these laws have no idea. Could you post them as (a section of) spare parts?
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 06:24
just proof of another rule we don,t need as we are heading away from our so beloved "free" country with the "right"
to vote.
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to vote.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 06:24
That is a good decision! Now there will be more advertising space for specials and chopped saloons!!!
Kind regards,
Maurice
happy eastermonday! Uhm, I mean aprilfoolsday!
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Kind regards,
Maurice
happy eastermonday! Uhm, I mean aprilfoolsday!
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 06:10
It is time now to say stop.This is a call to the community to give Joris all the help he needs to get rid of those stupid rules.What will be the next step waiting for all of us?
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 06:02
Well, if the rest of Europe follows the Dutch lead, not only will you only be able to discover Bugattis in Argentina, perhaps Mini Clubmans as well !
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 05:01
This is bureaucratic insanity! Barnfinds, no matter how exotic or mundane, are the lifeblood of our global hobby. Every restoration has a starting point and what may be a pile of rubbish to one man is a fabulous challenge to another. How can your government be so insensitive and short-sighted?
Would these same people apply these rules to the relics of ancient sailing ships? Of course not! Surely there's room for consultation: hire a lawyer or two!
Joris, you know you have the support of the world's old car enthusiasts, mainly because we like your idea of an April Fool's Day joke.
Nice one....... Peter R.
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Would these same people apply these rules to the relics of ancient sailing ships? Of course not! Surely there's room for consultation: hire a lawyer or two!
Joris, you know you have the support of the world's old car enthusiasts, mainly because we like your idea of an April Fool's Day joke.
Nice one....... Peter R.
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01 Avril 2013, 04:58
Banning barnfinds and project cars from your website would be absolutely ridiculous! While the Netherlands have always been known for their tolerance (i.e. marihuana consumption, multi-cultural society) I cannot understand why those new restrictions for classic car collectors and dealsers habe been set up. Even here in Germany, where nearly everything else seems to be restricted, such legislations would be absolutely unacceptable.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 04:40
I was so disappointed to learn of the Dutch government's repressive new legislation regarding advertisements for barn finds and project cars. Your two websites provide an outstanding service as an international focal point for everything related to the old car hobby. This includes your advertisements for barn finds and project cars, which are an integral part of the hobby.
We old car enthusiasts all derive immense pleasure from your websites, so it is a shame that your existence is threatened. The Dutch government is wasting its time on spoiling our enjoyment for no significant improvement in public safety or air pollution. Here in California we are very conscious of the environment and public safety, but our government would meet strong opposition if they tried to impose such laws.
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We old car enthusiasts all derive immense pleasure from your websites, so it is a shame that your existence is threatened. The Dutch government is wasting its time on spoiling our enjoyment for no significant improvement in public safety or air pollution. Here in California we are very conscious of the environment and public safety, but our government would meet strong opposition if they tried to impose such laws.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 02:20
hello i will join you protest, but i doubt an american living in the us will have any efect on the dutch government.
ask the sellers to list a prewarcar t shirt for sale for x amount of money, buyer of tee shirt gets free car. you will be selling the tee shirt for $10,000 and getting a free car.
list the car as modern art sculptor for yard decoration only..rob
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ask the sellers to list a prewarcar t shirt for sale for x amount of money, buyer of tee shirt gets free car. you will be selling the tee shirt for $10,000 and getting a free car.
list the car as modern art sculptor for yard decoration only..rob
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01 Avril 2013, 01:10
Another comment- obviously the fools in charge know about the Pre-War car world because they unfortunately targeted you for this ridiculous new 'rule'.
Tony.
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Tony.
Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 01:06
How bl**dy stupid- another thing set up by an ignorant bureaucratic system with no understanding of the very valuable world of 'old cars'.
Surely a reasonable attempt at properly formulated legislation would cover the fears of the lunatics in charge of the asylum.
Tony :-(
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Surely a reasonable attempt at properly formulated legislation would cover the fears of the lunatics in charge of the asylum.
Tony :-(
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01 Avril 2013, 00:51
A government rule banning the advertisement of automotive barn finds severely limits the continuation of finding and restoring a part of history. Preserving the past is a noble hobby and helps the economy; no matter what country you're from. My last 3 autos were 'barn finds'. In the past year I have spent over $300,000 USD restoring them. One of the three is one of just five remaining 1936 SS Jaguar Saloons which sat for 65 years in a barn. Now it is the finest in the world. Please tell me how I'm hurting the environment?
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 00:46
Hi, Fantastic April 1st Joke ( fools day in UK ) will dig out my circa 1902/8 Neustadt-Perry (seen at Beaulieu 2011) that should send the authorities thinking,just label it as an antique as it meets the criteria of being over 100 years old.John J.
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Inconnu
01 Avril 2013, 00:41
This has got to be an April fools joke !
And I was had !, but I still support the old car movement !
Nice one Joris !
Stuart
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And I was had !, but I still support the old car movement !
Nice one Joris !
Stuart
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01 Avril 2013, 00:26
I feel that I must protest over these new advertising rules for the older cars.
If these rules are implemented then that could mean the end of the hobby of collecting our antique and classic cars, not to mention the closing down of businesses involved in the restoration of these historical automobiles.
The implications for the Auction houses, who with less automobiles for sale, could face closure, and price increases in the current supply of vehicles.
This will adversly affect the collector of the "Less collectible car", and will see the demise of lots of vehicles which show the Automobiles history.
These rules have not been thought through properly, obviously being aimed at the "Old Banger Brigade".
But anyone who knows the business of classic car ownership knows that these cars are restored, and looked after better than many of their modern counterparts, usually do less mileage per year, and puts business back into the Economy, through the trade .
100 years since the "Red Flag" was abolished, and these new rules will do nothing to alleviate the concerns of the "Classic and Vintage" motoring public for the inept, ill thought out policies of the Bureaucrats, and the Politicians who have to implement them.
Stuart Penketh
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If these rules are implemented then that could mean the end of the hobby of collecting our antique and classic cars, not to mention the closing down of businesses involved in the restoration of these historical automobiles.
The implications for the Auction houses, who with less automobiles for sale, could face closure, and price increases in the current supply of vehicles.
This will adversly affect the collector of the "Less collectible car", and will see the demise of lots of vehicles which show the Automobiles history.
These rules have not been thought through properly, obviously being aimed at the "Old Banger Brigade".
But anyone who knows the business of classic car ownership knows that these cars are restored, and looked after better than many of their modern counterparts, usually do less mileage per year, and puts business back into the Economy, through the trade .
100 years since the "Red Flag" was abolished, and these new rules will do nothing to alleviate the concerns of the "Classic and Vintage" motoring public for the inept, ill thought out policies of the Bureaucrats, and the Politicians who have to implement them.
Stuart Penketh
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31 Mars 2013, 23:55
What sort of Fools does the Government think we are ?
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Clarke Mayze
31 Mars 2013, 23:33
What a ridiculous situation ! Typical of a very backward and stupid Dutch Government completely out of touch with reality . A STUPID DECISION FROM FOOLISH POLITICIANS ,please Prewar Cars , stand up for common sense , cheers Clarke .
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