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A Sleeve Valve Mystery Model. (Upd. V: NO sleeve valve; similar to Burtnett Burnell?)

This is a question which came in from R.R., who sent several photos of a cutaway sleeve valve engine which is  a patent model, a salesman sample, a prototype or a school learning example. Who can tell? It was sold to Rolf a very long time ago as a Willys Knight sleeve valve patent model but when he compared it with the available materials, there are too many differences. Maybe the patent app. date rings a bell? Sept. 13 1920 but it might be 1929 as well, hard to read. Looking forward to your expertise.

Update: see comments added by Bart Oosteling, Malcolm Jeal, Reg Harris and Bill Sides.     

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dimanche décembre 12th, 2010
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16 Décembre 2010, 11:02
Here is the answer after asking the American Heritage Center for info on this engine: Thank you for contacting the reference department at American Heritage Center (AHC), University of Wyoming. Your request has been received and is being logged and assigned to one of our archivists for reply. Each request is important to us, and, in fairness to all of our distance patrons, we strive to answer requests received by mail, phone, or email in the order received. Typically, requests are answered within 30 days but some requests may take as long as 60 days to fulfill.
Please be patient, I will ad the info once I receive it.
Thanks so far for all your help!
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15 Décembre 2010, 01:10
I think Bart is right. I have contacted the owner from the Burnell drawing and will ad his answer here. This model Bart mentions has the same patent year....
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14 Décembre 2010, 11:16
R.R.: I found it, see:
http://www.prewarcar.com/magazine/previous-features/it-s-an-engine-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it-update-surviving-4-cylinder-002459.html
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13 Décembre 2010, 19:48
I can't find anything by that name Bart, is this the correct name / brand?
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13 Décembre 2010, 17:46
Cannot find my previous item on the Burtnett Burnell engine on the site anymore but I think there are similarities
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13 Décembre 2010, 08:52
It looks like the same '9' stamp (see the highlight on the right side of the middle horizontal) was used for the date so I would think 1929.
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13 Décembre 2010, 06:58
This is certainly not a "sleeve valve " engine as fitted to Knight engined cars or Minerva. In these there are two sleeves sliding in the bore with the piston sliding within them. In the model shown , it could only be described as "sliding valve" arrangement
Reg Harris
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13 Décembre 2010, 02:25
Definately not sleeve valve but seemingly a still born piston valve concept which would have surely quickly cooked and seized the exhaust valve piston if it was ever used in anger.
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13 Décembre 2010, 00:18
The patent model engines is not in fact a sleeve valve unit, but a variation on the piston valve engine, of which the best known motorcar version was probably the Hewitt.

Both the Knight double-sleeve valve engine, as introduced by Daimler (Coventry)in 1908/9 and also used by Willys amongst others, and the single-sleeve units made under the Burt-McCollum patents had thin-walled cylindrical 'sleeve(s)' within the engine cylinder, the piston working inside the sleeve(s). Apertures in the sleeves allowed the ingress of the fuel-air mixture and egress of exhaust gasses.

Piston-valve engines were a variation on the slide-valve principle that had been used on steam engines almost from day one. It is difficult to see what might have been patentable about the system seen here, the inlet exhaust 'tubes' within the piston-valves merely introduce a further complication.

MJ
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