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A London & Picton Mystery


We received these beautiful pictures from Alex Selley, who is looking for identification of the 2 cars. Alex writes: "The photo of a chauffer driven car was taken in London, Circus Road, St. John's Wood in about 1913, the photo was given by his brother neighbour, a Mr Hartley of Western Australia who's Grandfather is the gentleman standing along side the car.

The second photo was given to me at a veteran car display to see if I could have this car identified. The gentleman who handed him the photo, has his grandmother sitting on the right in the back seat, the photo was taken at Picton, just out side Bunbury, Western Australia in about 1912 at the home of George Forrest, youngest brother of Lord Forrest 1st Premier of Western Australia."

Already we're looking forward to see/read your comments! And when you have family photos waiting for an ID, don't hesitate to send them in to [email protected]

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dimanche septembre 11th, 2016
Inconnu
13 Septembre 2016, 01:36
I was seeing an American 1906 Maxwell. The radiator shape is right, not sure if they stole it form a European brand or not. The did export them in big numbers.
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Inconnu
12 Septembre 2016, 19:34
The lead photo shows a 1907 or 1908 Clément landaulette. The Clément story isn't easy to tell in a few words. When Adolphe Clément left his own company end of 1903, he was not allowed to take the brand name 'Clément' with him. So he started a new make, which was called Bayard at first, later extended to Bayard-Clément, and again some time later converted to Clément-Bayard. The Gladiator factory continued to produce the Clément, which in the beginning was very similar in appearance to the Gladiator, but later evolved in the direction of the mystery car. In England, where the Clément was assembled by Clement-Talbot Ltd., the owners followed Adolphe Clément and renamed the car to Clement-Talbot and soon to Talbot. From 1906 they continued independently with the (All-British) Talbot. The Gladiator-built Clément was imported and sold as (Lancaster-)Clément in England by E.H. Lancaster until 1908. From this year Lancaster built and sold Swift-designed (All-British) Cléments as well as imported (Gladiator-)Cléments. The mystery photo undoubtedly shows a Gladiator-built Clément, which will have been imported by Lancaster.
The other car could very well be a ca 1906 Clyde, but the output by this company was very small and my archive doesn't provide sufficient evidence to be absolutely sure.
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Inconnu
12 Septembre 2016, 11:10
Mors Type N for the first one, possibly.
Even the second could be a Mors maybe.
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Inconnu
12 Septembre 2016, 09:38
Minervas ?
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