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The Slim Lady 'Fatman' Mystery (upd.: Stutz, Cadillac or French?)



When we received this lovely picture from the nice people at Retromobile we all tried to answer the questions it contained. Are the overalls cotton or linen? We don't care - what's the car!? And how about the steering wheel? We have visited the steering wheel design before, HERE, and quick research shows various designs were available for the driver with a waistline to match his appetite. These days, it is not politically correct to say the *F* word, but the manufacturers called it the 'Fatman' steering wheel and they sold like hot cakes! They folded in such a way as to ease access to the driving seat. Actually, the Neville company called it the 'More Room Steering Wheel' and took out a patent in 1915.

Did our slim lady slide in through a door or climb over the side? Let's see what we know. It's a high quality tourer with leather upholstery, perhaps no weather protection, and a passenger-operated spotlight for reading signs on night rallies. We think  it's American, and right hand drive (however the RHD could lead us to Delage or similar as well). Lincoln offered these steering wheels to their customers, so did Ford and Buick. You will know better than us, so please tell us what you think about the car - perhaps a well-known racing car? It's a pity we don't have more pictures from the photo shoot because we bet she has a pretty smile and all we have is this blank expression. Never mind - get along to Retromobile in Paris and enjoy the smile in the exhibition of Jacques-Henri Lartigue's photographs. It is his mistress Renée Perle, holding the windscreen instead of the steering wheel.

Update: the french fatman steering wheel as mentioned by Detlef Kayser

(Text Robin Batchelor, picture courtesy Retromobile)

Publié:
jeudi janvier 21st, 2016
Inconnu
28 Janvier 2016, 23:39
Let's get back to simplicity, she is a "looker", which brought us to the photo, now we must pull ourselves away from complexity.

I see "profile", only two profiles of great note(?), Stutz here and MINERVA there. Her head is not extended forward, I say I want to own this MINERVA.
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Inconnu
25 Janvier 2016, 05:40
With such an attractive women in the driving seat I must say I didn't notice the steering wheel.
The rest of the car has either been painted out or a studio picture.

Tony.
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Inconnu
23 Janvier 2016, 22:35
Hadn't noticed the wheel- remarkably attractive women though!

The picture looks very posed and the car outside the picture is missing- either studio prop or removed from the print.

Tony.
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Inconnu
23 Janvier 2016, 22:25
Some thoughts...This is not an ordinary background - many shadows; there's heavy overhead lighting on the subject and top of the chrome wheel column; her torso is rotated a good 20 degrees despite her hand position on the wheel; is there a lack of windshield glass? I don't see a seam where the frame is hinged. This adds up to a studio shot. The puported vehicle is likely a mid-teens racer given the absence of shifter (it's outside the cowl), high cowl, upholstery that runs to the outside (no door) and high position and angle of stering column. The absence of body behind the seat suggests a prop but early racers had no bodies behind the seats - yet often were open to the floor along the side. Ok if I have to guess: Rolland Pilain?
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Inconnu
22 Janvier 2016, 19:19
I have a photo at home of my grandmother in her youth. Beautiful young woman much like the subject of the photo; intense on appearing in the moment. They grow, marry, bear children and if lucky play with their children offspring before moving on. Pity we can't fix and preserve humans with the dedication we apply to our old cars. I'd like to hear their stories just one more time.
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Inconnu
22 Janvier 2016, 15:09
I believe this is a Neville steering wheel. That is also what is in Detlef's update.
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Inconnu
22 Janvier 2016, 12:19
Where is the back of the car? We see only the top of the seat? Is this really a complete car?

editor: if you click the main photo you will ee what the full photo has to offer. Not a lot more...
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Inconnu
22 Janvier 2016, 10:05
@ Detlef Kayser:
I think, you´re right. It looks like the steering-wheel in a Salmson, I saw at the Vintage Revival in Zandvoort this year:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pIVo8RBN8W0G1bZarK-8aZdyi8z0mWIJP7YJg0DpFC0?feat=email
Best,
Hubertus

Editor: We checked with the owner of the specific Salmson you refer to. He is using an american made Neville steering wheel. See >>> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5NFgxNjAw/z/pzAAAOSwstxVY2TR/$_1.JPG
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Inconnu
22 Janvier 2016, 08:16
The steering wheel in the picture is not the
american but the french version (how could I add a picture to that mail?) which I'm restoring at the moment - to put it on my Amilcar after that...
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Inconnu
22 Janvier 2016, 05:27
From 1914 to 1921, Cadillac had a steering wheel that hinged at the end of one of the wheel spokes. It was to allow front seat passengers to access from the right side of a right hand drive vehicle. Vehicles were available in left and right hand drive at that time. I can send a photo of a 1919 example if required.
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Inconnu
22 Janvier 2016, 00:21
I'd have to go for American: the steering wheel and accessory spotlight point that way. The location of the spotlight tells us that the car has no roof so it's going to be something of the later 'Teens raceabout/Bearcat style, possibly a special. Right hand drive suggests Stutz.
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Inconnu
21 Janvier 2016, 23:50
Maybe a late teens Stutz Bearcat?
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