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The Racing Brasiers (update: on the road again!)

Most enthusiasts only know the name Brasier from the early victories the Richard-Brasier marque had in the 1904-05 Gordon Bennett Cups. Not surprising really, as the Brasier name lived for less than 30 years under a variety of guises, but as French motoring historian Sébastien Faurès Fustel de Coulanges discovers in the latest issue of The Automobile magazine, there was a lot more to the company than those early, well-publicised victories. 

Henry Charles Brasier was an ex-Mors engineer and the man behind the famous Types D, F and G Grand Prix cars. Throughout his career he would experiment not only with motor cars but aero engines, speedboats and even tractors.

Here we see Brasier himself seated in the GP1905 Gordon Bennett Cup car, and his unusual engineering solution in one of his power boats: three obsolete Grand Prix car engines arranged in triangular formation...
 

 

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mercredi octobre 23rd, 2013
Inconnu
30 Octobre 2013, 19:48
I was wondering about the Brasier that was on the Aalholm auction first presentation from RM.
Where did that go to ?
And what is the history of that car ?
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Inconnu
26 Octobre 2013, 01:17
Not being negative chaps, just trying to stick to known facts. The 1904 Gordon Bennett Richard-Brasiers (according to contemporary sources researched thoroughly by noted historian Michael Sedgwick) were nearly 10 litres (150 x 140, 9896cc) and featured an unusual arrangement whereby the seats were formed by an alloy casting which was also the front half of the petrol tank.

The 'new' car is more like the 1905 Gordon Bennett cars in appearance but the three 1905 Gordon Bennett cars were even larger capacity than the 1904 cars, 160 x 140, 11259cc. I understand the 'new' car to be around 5 litres, hence my observation that it doesn't seem to be an actual Gordon Bennett car as the owner told me recently.

Notwithstanding the above, it is indisputedly a fine vehicle and a very welcome newcomer to the Edwardian scene in Scotland, and I particularly applaud the considerable effort that has gone into retaining as much of the original finish as possible, in contrast to many other recent restorations.
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william hearne
25 Octobre 2013, 10:03
......why the negativity chaps? Ian Murray has kindly brought to our attention a very fine video clip of a rebuilt Veteran Mors. The footage is spectacular.
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Ian Murray
25 Octobre 2013, 08:49
Not being the owner of the Perthshire Brasier, I'm reluctanct to comment - suffice to say, it is the same size as the vehicles in the contemporary pictures, and you'd be amazed what's tucked away in the Scottish Highlands!
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Inconnu
25 Octobre 2013, 00:26
Whatever this car 'new' car is, it certainly isn't one of the three Brasiers that competed in the 1904 Gordon Bennett elimination trials nor the winning car driven by Thery, the only Brasier to compete in the actual GB itself. Comparison with contemporary pictures of the Thery car makes this clear; its altogether a larger vehicle, except for the drive chains which are dwarfed by those currently fitted to this newly recommissioned car!
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Inconnu
24 Octobre 2013, 20:36
Russian racer Soldatenkoff on Brasier starting on 1913 Le Mans
http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=aaz&datum=19130817&seite=19&zoom=33

The same Brasier or another? Who knows more about Soldatenkoff?
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Inconnu
24 Octobre 2013, 13:42
Very interesting clip---many thanks but can you please tell us more ? What is this car---the genuine article ? What size is the engine ? May we see photos of the whole car please ?
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Ian Murray
24 Octobre 2013, 10:35
Last weekend we drove a 1904 Brasier on the road for the first time in many decades. It's been mechanically restored but otherwise, very original. Click on the Youtube link below to experience Highland Perthshire roads from the "riding mechanics" point of view!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hb7s4Z9Ags
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Inconnu
24 Octobre 2013, 03:21
Is that Leon Thery, winner of the 1904 Gordon Bennett race, in the Drivers seat, with Richard Brasier, sitting in the passenger (riding mechanics) seat ?
Stuart
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