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What is it? Quiz #459
The weekend has just started! Which means.... the quiz is online! This week, it is probably not that hard. Because if you do not know the car itself, you might be able to recognize the persons in it. The photo is sent in by the person who owns a car like this (and probably the only one still around).
Can you tell us more about this important piece of history? Please leave your answer in a comment before Monday. Do not forget to use no more than 100 words. We will stockpile your account of points for the six-months-competition.
Good luck!
Publié:
vendredi décembre 1st, 2017
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Tom St.martin
04 Décembre 2017, 18:40
Looking again at the picture of the ZIS, I think that is Egypt's Nasser standing in the center next to Kruschev.
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David Chelonie
04 Décembre 2017, 14:28
Official visit of Egypt President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt to the Soviet Union.mNikita Khrushchev with President Gamal Abdel Nasser and the Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko touring Moscow in a ZIZ 110 V Convertible Phaeton
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David
03 Décembre 2017, 23:42
Official visit of Egypt President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt to the Soviet Union.mNikita Khrushchev with President Gamal Abdel Nasser and the Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko touring Moscow in a ZIZ 110 V Convertible Phaeton
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LUC RYCKAERT
03 Décembre 2017, 23:11
ZIS 110 V (from Vnedoma or oudoors) Parade Phaeton limousine of Nikita Khrushchev, the person on the left of this picture. ZIS 110 series were built by ZIL (Zavod im Likhacheva) in the Stalin factory at Moscow between 1945 and 1958, based on the 1942 Packard Super Eight. Joseph Stalin owned several Packards (at least 1 offered by Roosevelt) and that's probably the reason why the first real Soviet luxury car was based on the Packard. Rumours without evidence are that ZIL even used Packard machinery to build the 110. The cars were powered by a 6 litre, 8 cylinder engine producing 140 HP. I guess the pictured car is of 1954 or later, because these had the front central extra light.
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Fried Stol
03 Décembre 2017, 22:47
This is a picture of an eighteen day state visit that president Nasser from Egypt made in 1958 to Russia, when he was welcomed by Nikita Chroestjov in a 1949 ZIS (Zavod Emini Stalin) 110B Cabriolet. This car was based on the prewar Packard 180. Allegations that Russia bought the deficient dies from the Packard Co, when the production line ended, has never been proved. Stalin however was a great admirer of these Packards and owned some. In 1990 one of these cars was bought by an Japenese cardealer for the sum of 121 million Shilling.
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David
03 Décembre 2017, 22:39
It is the Soviet president Nikita Khrushchev and Egyptian President Gammal Abdel Nasser in the middle with Soviet Foreign Minister.
The car is a ZIZ 110 ZIS 110 V Convertible Phaeton
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The car is a ZIZ 110 ZIS 110 V Convertible Phaeton
Bernard Corrège
03 Décembre 2017, 19:40
c'est une ZIL ou ZIS 110B avec à son bord
Kliment Vorochilov, Gamal Abdel Nasser et Nikita Khrouchtchev, 5 Mai 1958 Moscou.
En 1956 la déstalinisation fait que la ZIS (Zavod Imeni Stalinia) devient ZIL (Zavod Imeni Likhatchiova du nom de l’ancien directeur de l’usine Ivan Likhatchiov)
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Kliment Vorochilov, Gamal Abdel Nasser et Nikita Khrouchtchev, 5 Mai 1958 Moscou.
En 1956 la déstalinisation fait que la ZIS (Zavod Imeni Stalinia) devient ZIL (Zavod Imeni Likhatchiova du nom de l’ancien directeur de l’usine Ivan Likhatchiov)
jean claude poisson
03 Décembre 2017, 17:18
This car is a Zis 110 which was built during 15 years in the Staline factory in Moscow. In fact it is a Packard super eight (1942)but built probably after the war as Kroutchev and Nasser are its passengers.Staline was very fond of Packards and asked Roosevelt to intercede on Mrs Macauley and Christopher managers of Packard. So they sold the super eight to the Russians.
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Robert Hafner
03 Décembre 2017, 16:47
First the car: It is a ZIS (later ZIL) 110 B Cabriolet built 1946-59.
It had a 6 l straight 8 engine, which gave only 140 HP with reduced compression ratio (1/6,5 approx) therefore being suitable for poor gasoline quality. Brought the heavy 2,5 ton car to 140 km/h it is said. Basically it was a Packard 1941 design copied completely except for badge and metric screws.
Then the persons, obviously in an official state visit, hard to recognize from the foto. Is it in the middle Nasser? That could be towards 1960.
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It had a 6 l straight 8 engine, which gave only 140 HP with reduced compression ratio (1/6,5 approx) therefore being suitable for poor gasoline quality. Brought the heavy 2,5 ton car to 140 km/h it is said. Basically it was a Packard 1941 design copied completely except for badge and metric screws.
Then the persons, obviously in an official state visit, hard to recognize from the foto. Is it in the middle Nasser? That could be towards 1960.
Konstantin Zhukov
03 Décembre 2017, 13:21
Hi.The photo of this ZIS- 110 is made on the reverse side! The steering wheel of this ZIS-110 belonging to Khrushchev was on the left side!
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Konstantin Zhukov
03 Décembre 2017, 13:11
This is a car ZIS 110.-plant named after Stalin
The ceremonial cabriolet.
It belonged to Khrushchov.
Was bought in the garage kgb in Kiev and restored by me in 1998.
Now this ZIS 110 is in Moscow.
http://zhukovcars.com/de/vehicle/zis_110_paraden_cabrio_hrushyov/
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The ceremonial cabriolet.
It belonged to Khrushchov.
Was bought in the garage kgb in Kiev and restored by me in 1998.
Now this ZIS 110 is in Moscow.
http://zhukovcars.com/de/vehicle/zis_110_paraden_cabrio_hrushyov/
Henk Visscher
03 Décembre 2017, 12:54
On 29-04-1958 Gamal Abdel Nasser, president of the newly formed United Arab Republic (Egypt and Syria) arrived in Moscow for an 18-day state visit. Soviet Presidium Chairman Voroshilov and First Secretary Khrushchev welcomed him. Standing in the pictured ZIL-110B (mirrored!), they drove to the Kremlin. Launched end-1945, the 110 limosine designed for the Communist elite was the product of reverse engineering of the 1942 Packard-180. Initially named ZIS-110 (Zavod Imeni Stalina), the model was rebranded as the ZIL-110 (Zavod Imeni Lichachova) when Khrushchev had denounced Stalin. The cabriolet version ZIS/ZIL-110B was produced between 1949 and 1957; about 40 cars built.
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Peter Skofic
03 Décembre 2017, 09:40
The car is the soviet ZIS 110 and the celebrities standing in it are Nikita Khruschev (prime minister of USSR), Gamal Abdel Naser (Egypt) and Wladyslaw Gomulka (?) (Poland). In separate e-mail I am also sending you a driving report on ZIS 110 and a copy of its promotional leaflet.
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Gerd Klioba
03 Décembre 2017, 08:11
The mirrored picture shows Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser amidst Kliment Voroshilov (Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet) and Nikita Khrushchev (First Secretary of the Communist Party) in Moscow on May 05, 1958. They were driven in a ZIS 110B with the number plate MШ 16-13. It was one of around 40 phaetons out of the total production run of 2,089 ZIS 110. The 110 was a reverse engineered 1942 Packard Super Eight, built from 1946 to 1958. The company's name Zavod Imeni Stalina was changed to Zavod Imeni Likhachova (ZIL) in 1956 due to de-Stalinization.
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Stuart Penketh
03 Décembre 2017, 01:48
What is it? Quiz #459
Not a Prewar car !
1946-1949 ZIS 110 B Convertible, (Joseph Stalin owner)
(reputedly, based on 1942 Packard Super 8, given by FDR to Stalin, during WWII).
Grey in colour, ZIS stands for Zavod imeni Stalina, (“Stalin Factory”, later changed to ZIL, to reflect the Former Director “Likhachova”
This quiz picture is a reversed image, which makes recognizing people difficult, but it shows Khrushchev (1953-’58), with guests, (Enver Hoxha), and another , passing the Kremlin.
Engine, 6.0L ZIS-110 I8, Transmission, 3-speed manual,
Wheelbase, 3,760 mm (148.0 in), Length, 6,000 mm (236.2 in),
Width, 1,960 mm (77.2 in), Height, 1,730 mm (68.1 in)
Curb weight, 2,575 kg (5,677 lb)
2,038 ZIS-110 cars were made between 1945 and 1958,
This car is currently located in the town of Kannus in Western Finland, and is believed to be for sale.
References :
http://krasnoarm236.livejournal.com/34535.html
https://jalopnik.com/5540690/for-sale-stalins-zis-110-parade-car-from-1949
Stuart Penketh
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Not a Prewar car !
1946-1949 ZIS 110 B Convertible, (Joseph Stalin owner)
(reputedly, based on 1942 Packard Super 8, given by FDR to Stalin, during WWII).
Grey in colour, ZIS stands for Zavod imeni Stalina, (“Stalin Factory”, later changed to ZIL, to reflect the Former Director “Likhachova”
This quiz picture is a reversed image, which makes recognizing people difficult, but it shows Khrushchev (1953-’58), with guests, (Enver Hoxha), and another , passing the Kremlin.
Engine, 6.0L ZIS-110 I8, Transmission, 3-speed manual,
Wheelbase, 3,760 mm (148.0 in), Length, 6,000 mm (236.2 in),
Width, 1,960 mm (77.2 in), Height, 1,730 mm (68.1 in)
Curb weight, 2,575 kg (5,677 lb)
2,038 ZIS-110 cars were made between 1945 and 1958,
This car is currently located in the town of Kannus in Western Finland, and is believed to be for sale.
References :
http://krasnoarm236.livejournal.com/34535.html
https://jalopnik.com/5540690/for-sale-stalins-zis-110-parade-car-from-1949
Stuart Penketh
Bob Hall
03 Décembre 2017, 01:18
ZIS 110B with Krushev and Nassar and ? A
as passengers
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as passengers
Darryl Grey
03 Décembre 2017, 00:47
Looks like a Russian ZIL limo about 1948 - Nikita Kruschev on left - my guess doing a meet and greet in East Germany.
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Andreas Brocke
02 Décembre 2017, 22:19
This car looks like a Zis 110 that buil from 1946 to 1958 in USSR. Engine is 1 6 litre 8 cylinder
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fritz hegemann
02 Décembre 2017, 20:59
Hi Postwarclassic-Team,
Here my solution:
We see Nikita Khrushchev in a ZIS-110, built in 2038 copies from 1946 to 1958, 8cyl-in-line-engine, 6,003 cc, 140 hp, 7-seater representation-cabriolet, 6m length.
ZIS-110 was an evolution of the Packard 180 (1940-1942, eight-cylinder in-line-engine with 5,833 cc, 160 hp), built on its assembly line, which was delivered to the ZIS (Sawod Imeni Stalina, Moskau), after WW2.
The ZIS-110 retained the Packard-radiator shape, looking more modern by horizontal chrome trim and the absence of runningboards.
A variant was the ZIS-115 (4 copies) armored representation-sedan (5,280kg).
This special car here takes the single fog-light in front, actually reserved for the ZIS-115.
Best regards from the Nahe-Valley!
Fritz Hegemann
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Here my solution:
We see Nikita Khrushchev in a ZIS-110, built in 2038 copies from 1946 to 1958, 8cyl-in-line-engine, 6,003 cc, 140 hp, 7-seater representation-cabriolet, 6m length.
ZIS-110 was an evolution of the Packard 180 (1940-1942, eight-cylinder in-line-engine with 5,833 cc, 160 hp), built on its assembly line, which was delivered to the ZIS (Sawod Imeni Stalina, Moskau), after WW2.
The ZIS-110 retained the Packard-radiator shape, looking more modern by horizontal chrome trim and the absence of runningboards.
A variant was the ZIS-115 (4 copies) armored representation-sedan (5,280kg).
This special car here takes the single fog-light in front, actually reserved for the ZIS-115.
Best regards from the Nahe-Valley!
Fritz Hegemann
George Cassidy
02 Décembre 2017, 18:32
ZIS 110 (1946-1958), reverse engineered from Stalin's 1942 Packard. Khruschchev in the car so it's probably one of the later models ca. 1958.
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Awini Ambuj Shanker
02 Décembre 2017, 17:22
The car is a Zis 110. A Soviet built copy pf the Packard
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Adam
02 Décembre 2017, 16:55
..sorry,--correct ZIS 110 from Russland by Packard 180
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Gotthard
02 Décembre 2017, 16:46
This is the ZIS 110b (convertible). ZIS -fabrik of Stalin in Moscow, had been planned as early as 1942 and was introduced at the end of 1945 8 cil.L-head. 137 hp. Base from(1941 Packard Super Eight 180 Convertible, schassi from Buick Limited Limousine 90L. and body design by FISHER): I think it,s a armored Hruscov Phaeton version. Produced 1945-1958.
foto is from 28 april 1958. Egypt president Hamal Naser visit in Moskva, with Nikita Hruscov and Kliment Varashilov in car.
best regards, Gothard
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foto is from 28 april 1958. Egypt president Hamal Naser visit in Moskva, with Nikita Hruscov and Kliment Varashilov in car.
best regards, Gothard
valery patrakov
02 Décembre 2017, 16:20
Is not it Soviet ZIS-110? ZIS 110B ,its cabrio version to say more correctly.. But why in prewar quiz? Years of its production are 1945—1958.
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David Horsley
02 Décembre 2017, 16:20
It's a Soviet ZIS (lookalike Packard) made in the USSR mid-40s to mid-50s. Kruschev and Nasser are on board.
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David Horsley
02 Décembre 2017, 16:17
It's a ZIS made in the late 40s to late 50s with Kruschev and Nasser on board.
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Larry A. Lewis
02 Décembre 2017, 15:28
It's a Russian-built Zil, obviously a Packard copy.
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robiolle stanislas
02 Décembre 2017, 14:28
hello !
the car is an ZIS 110B (start 1947) Packard copy !
the man in left is the first secratary NIKITA KHROUCHTCHEV (USSR), and the other is maybe another leaders of the eastern bloc !?
S.R. Paris ,France
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the car is an ZIS 110B (start 1947) Packard copy !
the man in left is the first secratary NIKITA KHROUCHTCHEV (USSR), and the other is maybe another leaders of the eastern bloc !?
S.R. Paris ,France
Stephane Aderca
02 Décembre 2017, 13:50
The car is a ZIS-110B, the phaeton version of the ZIS-110, a Soviet copy of the Packard Super Eight developed under Joseph Stalin. Just 40 110Bs were built between 1949 and 1957.
The distinguished passengers are Colonel Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt with his hosts Nikita Khrushchev and Nikolai Bulganin. The year is 1958.
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The distinguished passengers are Colonel Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt with his hosts Nikita Khrushchev and Nikolai Bulganin. The year is 1958.
Anders Svenfelt
02 Décembre 2017, 08:55
1949 ZIS-110B built by Moscow Automotive Society-Likhackov Plant. This is Stalin's own parade car. The ZIS was created for government and head of States in mainly socialist countries. Not an exact copy of any Packard, although Stalin owned several ones of this American luxury car.
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Alan Spencer
02 Décembre 2017, 07:50
Packard was a much admired brand in Russia both before and after WW2, so when Roosevelt gave Stalin a Packard 180, Stalin directed that the ZIS cars built for Russian officials should copy its style. Claims that Packard sold their dies to the USSR have been proven false, since no parts are interchangeable. About 40 ZIS-110B 4-door cabriolets (as shown) were built between 1949 and 1957. The ZIS featured a 6-liter inline 8 with a 3-speed manual transmission. The photo shows Egyptian President Nasser during his May 1958 state visit to Moscow, flanked by Nikita Khrushchev and Kliment Voroshilov.
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paul amato
02 Décembre 2017, 07:39
Is it Nikita Kruschev in a ZIS 110? They made ZILs all the way through to 5 years ago...
Paul
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Paul
michael roehrs
02 Décembre 2017, 06:55
chruschtschow + nasser in moskau in a packard clone ZIL
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Alan Brookman
02 Décembre 2017, 06:34
Not being an expert in the marque I can only get close: it appears to be a 1946 Packard Clipper Deluxe.
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Donald Risen
02 Décembre 2017, 04:14
Car is a 1951 ZIS manufactured in Russia and based on similarities with 1947 Packard styling (U.S>
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Jeff Perkins
02 Décembre 2017, 04:01
Is that Nikita Kruschev in a Russian Zil??
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Tom St.martin
02 Décembre 2017, 03:07
Looks like a Soviet made ZIS with Nikita Kruschev standing up on the front passenger side.
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